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Why are we having trouble with not supporting this site?
 dasmith44 member offline
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posted 2/4/2018
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We use the forum, and that's nice.
We use the Journal to track our miles and rank, that's cool.

Why are, most of us, not supporting this site by paying the annual dues?

Something for nothing, I guess?

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posted 2/4/2018
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Slantz set up this business model a long time ago and has never changed it. If heís good with it, then so am I.

Although I contribute here, i do not pay for my Strava account. I donít feel guilty about it and likewise I donít believe people should feel guilty about not contributing here at bikejournal. Itís a personal choice driven by many possible factors. In my opinion we should not pry and even if some folks feel like offering reasons why they choose not too, we definitely should not judge.

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posted 2/4/2018
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Maybe an enterprising soul could approach slantz directly and get a sense of whether he intends to pull the plug, or what kind of $$ it would take, or what opportunities exist to allow a third party to make enhancements if he is too busy. And then we go from there...

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posted 2/4/2018
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There's approx. 50,000 folks signed up, (the pop. of a small town), seems like there are some marketing opportunities being missed.

Perhaps an enterprising entrepreneur on here could get with Slantz and SELL some products and/or services and generate some cash flow..

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posted 2/5/2018
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There's approx. 50,000 folks signed up, (the pop. of a small town), seems like there are some marketing opportunities being missed.

Perhaps an enterprising entrepreneur on here could get with Slantz and SELL some products and/or services and generate some cash flow..
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What would you like to see done to the site to improve it? I don't know what is involved in making these happen, but I would like the photo issue taken care of, have automatic uploads, and a mapping feature.

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posted 2/5/2018
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I pay.

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This subject comes up periodically (and has for many years), nothing changes and the site is what it is. It doesn't seem to matter how many yellow jerseys there are. If there was change, I would have kept my yellow jersey long ago. There may be 50,000 people signed up but only a few thousand contribute (ie log miles) on any kind of regular basis and even fewer post in the forums.

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posted 2/5/2018
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Maybe it's a "Cast System" dynamic - wherein it gives those who "pay" a justification, (in their own mind), to feel superior to those lowly "untouchables" who, for whatever reason, don't (or can't) "pay".

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posted 2/5/2018
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Maybe Slantz has other motivations besides making money?

Just hosting a website isn't free.

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posted 2/5/2018
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So, how many "Premier" members are there - including Premier Clubs and Premier Shops?

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posted 2/6/2018
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I would define this as a hobby site.

Slantz said early on that he didn't want to have the site overrun by adds so he chose to forgo that revenue stream. The premier memberships probably cover the costs of hosting the site and not much more than that. Like most of us, he is a working man supporting a family and has to deal with a pretty long commute unless he has moved recently (he works near where I live but lives a pretty long way west).

If someone has the coding skills to add new features to the site, that person might be able to offer modules to the site if they are compatible with the way the site is run. Dallasbiker did that early on.

Mainly though, we will have to be content with what enhancements a working man with a family is willing to fit into his schedule.

Personally, I want the site to continue to be available so I keep up my premier membership to help cover the costs just the way I make donations to other hobby websites I benefit from.
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