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What is the purpose of a "club ride?"
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My cycling club has recently been hotly debating a number of topics, which left me wondering, what exactly is a club ride for?

My previous club experience had led me to believe (apparently erroneously) that club rides give like-minded cyclists a chance to ride together. My current club seems to define "club ride" as a marked route over which everyone does their own thing. Any attempt to suggest anything else (like riding in groups of similar pace) is met with scorn and derision.

My thought at the moment is that if I'm going to drive 40 or more miles round trip to participate in these "club rides" I had better not find myself riding alone, because I could do that from my own driveway and save a lot of gas. Also, if a ride pace is listed as 13-18 mph, I would expect that that is the speed the majority of the people are riding, NOT 25 mph.

They wonder why new people don't join, or if they do, they frequently don't renew their membership after the first year. I've pointed out a number of reasons why, and keep running up against the wall of, "Well, this is the best way to do things" and "You can't force people to all ride at the same speed." Yet at the same time, their stated goal is to be "welcoming to cyclists of all abilities."

I'm looking for input from members of other clubs, because there is a board meeting on the 30th, and I know the topic is going to come up. I need ammunition, unless I'm completely off-base and my prior club was just some kind of rogue bunch of abnormally nice cyclists.

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posted 5/24/2015
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I love this. You should add "no drop" to your tirade. I am usually the last guy out there and have learned "cyclist support thyself"! EVEN at charity events. Often times these "groups/clubs" support the rides but fail to support the riders. They seem to be too focused on just the alpha/omega with little regard for the meat between the bread!

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posted 5/24/2015
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A buddy of mine suggested we ride a Saturday group ride hosted by a local bike shop. When we arrived, they broke up the group into average speeds.

We are 19-21 average speed (mph) riders in this area so joined that group. What a joke! The ride leaders were hammering at 25+, running stop signs (not even slowing down,) not pointing out turns, and hammering out of slow corners ostensibly to drop riders at the back of the group. I agree that speeds at times will be higher than the stated average but it was obvious the leaders of this group were a much faster set of riders and their intent was to ignore traffic rules and drop everyone else. At the first break, we went on our own and left the group to their wiles.

We did complain to the store leaders afterward and were basically brushed off with "if you don't like it, you don't have to ride with us."

I'm with you, a group ride is to ride as a group and not an ad-hoc race with the intent of dropping half the field.

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posted 5/24/2015
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Like clubs, club rides are whatever the members decide. If the club is organized, they will have bylaws that state the purpose of the club and of activities such as club rides. I would start by understanding the bylaws. They should spell out a procedure for getting ideas recognized and in front of the members. Without knowing more about the activities and the history of the club as well as the bylaws that governs this club, it's really hard to address your issues.

With that said, The Space City Cycling Club in Clear Lake conducts their club rides similar to your previous experiences. Although I do not attend the club rides on a regular bases, I understand the value these rides as well as other activities, represent and have no issues paying up at renewal time. I highly encourage for you to visit their website. I would also encourage members of other clubs to voice their experience.

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I've been a member of more than one club and the common thread was to have "group rides" of like ability often with a "no drop" or "regroup" mention.

FYI for your meeting here's where they were: 3 in New Jersey, 1 in New York, 2 in Florida, 1 in California and 2 in Oregon.

Some of these clubs did have an "A" group which was pretty much "stay with us if you can" type of rides. The other levels were all of the stay together and enjoy the company.

My favorite group was the "Slow Poke Ride" whose motto was: "We ride to eat"

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Your club thinks its a race team.

Most of the time, the posted speeds (if any) are the average at the end...sometimes you go fast down hill, sometimes not....flats should be at the avg speed.

If you have such a wide variety of speeds, perhaps you should volunteer to take the xMPH group, while someone else takes the hammerheads?

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posted 5/24/2015
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And if you are met with scorn and derision....run. fast.

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And if you are met with scorn and derision....run. fast.
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What is the purpose of a "club ride?"

My first Club ride....Daytona Beach about 10 yrs ago. I joined the club just to be able to order their Club Jersey which I saw on members I've passed in town. A really cool design.."I got to get one" I said to myself.

Got on their website, There was A rides, B rides, C rides. OK I'll try this Club thing once. Once was it for me. Kinda as tojesky put it, I did the B ride avg 18-20 mph. I believe there was 12 of us....more than half took out super-fast. A couple were slower, I tagged along with one other rider doin my speed near 18 mph. Never mingled or communicated with anybody cause the whole group dissparted at the start.

I'm thinkin why pay the members fee, I didn't even feel like a member. Oh well I did get my Jersey its the one I'm wearing in my BJ photo

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posted 5/24/2015
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I was a ride leader for a large club for 14 years We had distances and speeds for all types of riders.We rode with the category we choose and stayed together regrouping on hill tops etc,We also had a sweep rider to make sure none was left behind.There were beginner rides up to a top level.

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posted 5/24/2015
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It's a shame, but unless someone organizes easier, no drop rides, It will likely continue. Ultimately the club will likely implode, when it just becomes too ego driven. I've seen it happen several times. The clubs that seem to endure are the ones that do No drop, or all riders accounted for. They also have a purpose, like riding to do something like eating or socializing or enjoying the view.
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