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Bicycle Tour of Colorado 2008
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posted 1/2/2008
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Time to bring this forward again with some info and links.

Official BTC website: Click Here

Zcubed started the 2008 BikeJournal BTC Ride signup here: Click Here

I have created a set of
Google "Fly Over" Maps for the 2008 BTC Route.

You will need to go to Google Earth to download/install the free Google Earth program if you don't already have it.


Then Download Maps Here

Learn how to use the controls, angle down, and "Fly Over" the route. Have fun and get ready for this year's BTC!

Finally, while the general route is well known, the exact route through towns and the exact location of each night's camp is not. These maps are meant to be a general "Fly Over" to see what I think is a fun and diverse route for 2008.

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posted 1/2/2008
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Two years ago, Howard and BalticTiger did Ride The Rockies and Howard also did Tour de Wyoming. Last year, the two of us did Ride the Rockies and RAGBRAI. This year, based on recommendations of Those In The Know*, and because BalticTiger didn't like using all her vacation time for "bike rides", our only week-long tour will be Bicycle Tour of Colorado, scheduled this year for June 22-28.

So far, a handful of Club Hypoxians have registered including Howard, BalticTiger, Tenbrooks**, SuperNana, valygrl, zcubed, and grubg. BTC starts and ends this year in Durango with stops in Ouray (via Silverton), Montrose, Telluride (where we'll take a one-day break), Naturita, and Cortez -- all beautiful Colorado towns.



* They say BTC has fewer people, awesome aid station food, and offers better, more challenging routes than the more famous Ride The Rockies tour. Plus, you don't have to enter a lottery.

** You hear that, Twain? Your application for Club Hypoxia membership has been approved! Now let's hope your check clears...

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posted 1/2/2008
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You hear that, Twain? Your application has been approved! Let's hope your check clears...
-- posted by Howard

No kidding...let's see, CerveloBeast, BTC, Triply ByPass, BJRU08, Solvang, and who knows what else......I may have to unretire!

Twain

PS

BTC has a "6 go for the price of 5" deal. WE have the "Howard Gang of 6" and two Alta Alpina gangs of 6 already. Hop on board!

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Nice! Thanks for the flyover Twain. Should be a great year.

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Hi Z

Glad you liked it. We have a bunch from here and NH going this year....should be a lot of fun. I am looking forward to riding more with Hypoxians. It is possible we will be out in CO from the start of BTC to BJRU08....hope so anyway. Say hi to Mr. Grub!

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I'm afraid to look! It might just scare me out of it.

I'll check it out AFTER I've completed the week. I might even impress myself then!

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posted 1/16/2008
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Two years ago, Howard and BalticTiger did Ride The Rockies and Howard also did Tour de Wyoming. Last year, the two of us did Ride the Rockies and RAGBRAI. This year, based on recommendations of Those In The Know*, and because BalticTiger didn't like using all her vacation time for "bike rides", our only week-long tour will be Bicycle Tour of Colorado, scheduled this year for June 22-28.

So far, a handful of Club Hypoxians have registered including Howard, BalticTiger, Tenbrooks**, SuperNana, valygrl, zcubed, and grubg. BTC starts and ends this year in Durango with stops in Ouray (via Silverton), Montrose, Telluride (where we'll take a one-day break), Naturita, and Cortez -- all beautiful Colorado towns.



* They say BTC has fewer people, awesome aid station food, and offers better, more challenging routes than the more famous Ride The Rockies tour. Plus, you don't have to enter a lottery.

** You hear that, Twain? Your application for Club Hypoxia membership has been approved! Now let's hope your check clears...
-- posted by Howard


Well lets see Howard doesn't live in Colorado but had down the big 3 RTR BTC and Pedal the Peaks will give my take on all 3

RTR
1. Was kind of nice to have the Denver Post reporter riding the rides and having the newspaper in each town especially the next day reading about your ride the day before.
2. Because of the Post publicity the town's on the route(City Council) was awaiting with open arms in each town you arrived and buses ran to downtown round the clock.
3. Yeah lunch lines were long and so were the bathroom lines went out along the highway but not so cool in mixed company.
4. BTW if my memory is right RTR 1998 did the same route you are doing this year on BTC except we didn't stop in Naturita or Ouray and stopped in Buenna Vista and Gunnison instead.


I think there is a fierce battle from the competing towns for the rides to go through their town and both BTC RTR and Pedal the Peaks keep changing their courses from year to year as I'm guessing 50-60% of the riders are from Colorado on these tours.

BTC
1. No doubt has the greatest rest stops for food at least when I did it I think which was in 2000 and we did the ski slopes loop. Aspen, Frisco etc.
2. Towns not as receptive as on RTR because of less publicity.
3. Thinks the climbing and or the tours depends on year to year and which towns they pick and how much feedback they get from the year before from the riders as to how many miles a day and how much climbing etc.
4. The thing I noticed about BTC since I did it was they seemed to nickle and dime you to death on the fees, maybe more so for out of staters so much to store yor bike box, so much for breakfast, didn't use to pay to sleep in the gym and on and on. Just give me one price and the check is in the mail.
5. Both rides had about 2,000 - 2,500 when I rode both. The key is to get an early start to not only avoid the heavy lunch lines and bathroom lines but to get through the passes over 10,000 feet before or right around noon to avoid chances of rain or hail that come in the afternoon but ya'll know that from living out there.

Pedal the Peaks
1. Saw last year they didn't have it.
2. Is a lot smaller 450 riders and they seem to cater to you more. Did almost everything except pedal your bike for you.
3. They did run vans into the towns but for sure they didn't seem to know we were coming remember on one night Sunday night was hard to find anyplace to eat in town.
4. I like this tour of the three but thinks you should experience all three as they are uniquely different for sure.


TBP is 1st on my list and then after that I would like to do the Heart tour they have out there also.


Good luck have a great ride and if I had bout 4 weeks of vacation would join you. Oh yeah if you are camping you might want to avoid the football field, you might get a surprise in the middle of the night.(grass watering)


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posted 1/20/2008
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Zman

Thanks for the thoughts on multi-day rides. I was hoping there would be some discussion about the various rides.

Here is another I would like to do...maybe next year.

www.crmbt.com/

Zman had a lot of good insight into the main rides on CO. Some rides are all inclusive, meals, indoor camping, parking, bike storage or whatever.

Cycle Oregon was mostly all inclusive...3 meals a day plus rest stops. It was way more than I could possible eat and prefer not to pay for all of that. On the other hand, Cycle Oregon often stops at very remote locations with no towns around to provide services.

I guess I would rather have it broken down into paying for the services needed. Otherwise I feel like I am subsidizing those who want services I don't need.

When I am done with one of these rides, I usually wonder how they can provide all that they do for so little. The voluneteers have a lot to do with that.

On the BTC's I have done, smaller towns were ready for us and had a lot of clubs and organizations vending food and free busses running until fairly late at night. In the ski towns, they had no idea we were coming and it was a mess.

The ski town problem is something they vowed to address for this year.


Looking forward

Twain


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posted 1/21/2008
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Ok since I have done the BTC before I'm still on their mailing and noticed this from their brochure>


1. They change the routes from year to year as I have done the same ride ceptin 2 towns and can only remember climbing 2 of the passes maybe only one for sure Lizzard Head on your day off and maybe Dallas Divide.
2. Maybe the Hypoxia crew wants to do some recon work before the ride. Day 2 on the one optional ride which is East Portal Road(Expert Climbers only 16% Grade for 7 mile) sounds like you better have a triple for this one or really good knees and or expect to be hurtin in the knees for the rest of the ride and lastly if you try this option you might wish you had a triple 1/2 way up.
3. Day 6 100 mile ride don't be fooled into thinking this is going to be an easy day. Remembers on my one tour and might have been this one a same 100 mile day crazy headwinds and sitting 10 miles from the finish line for bout an hr cooked,toasted, bonked, and or taked your pick.
4. Oh yeah buy the video and if you see them out on the course nuthin wrong with hamin it up some who knows u might make the video.



That's all from here
Still wish I was joining ya'll especially since I haven't climbed any of those passes.

Zman
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Zman

Thanks for the thoughts on multi-day rides. I was hoping there would be some discussion about the various rides.

Here is another I would like to do...maybe next year.

www.crmbt.com/

Zman had a lot of good insight into the main rides on CO. Some rides are all inclusive, meals, indoor camping, parking, bike storage or whatever.

Cycle Oregon was mostly all inclusive...3 meals a day plus rest stops. It was way more than I could possible eat and prefer not to pay for all of that. On the other hand, Cycle Oregon often stops at very remote locations with no towns around to provide services.

I guess I would rather have it broken down into paying for the services needed. Otherwise I feel like I am subsidizing those who want services I don't need.

When I am done with one of these rides, I usually wonder how they can provide all that they do for so little.






Hey tenbrooks that looks like a great ride thanks for the link and only 500 riders accepted what a deal. The other thing I noticed you have a choice on all the meals you want meal by meal. I usually prefer the meals in the towns at night unless it has been a tough day on the bike in which case I just want some food the other thing I noticed they didn't charge you for lunch as that should be part of your registration money is my thoughts as you are riding at lunch during riding hours.


Thanks again will be on my to ride list with this company.


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posted 1/21/2008
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Zman

The CRMBT seems to be run much like the BTC as I read it too. Looks good.

For food, I found I could get by with very little in the morning, perhaps coffee, a muffin that I bought the night before and at BTC they always had tons of bananas there in the morning for us no charge.

A local friend who I rode with the most last year on the BTC couldn't do without hot breakfast so he signed up for that.

The rest stops had so much food, lunch for me was out of the question. We ate more than needed along the way.

And of course it is so much more than just a ride......going out after with friends for dinner etc is a big part of the fun. Besides, someone owes me a beer I think.....someone?

The Day 2 climb out of Black Canyon is listed as the hardest short climb in Colorado......almost 2000 feet in 3 miles with an avearge of 11%.....about 2 miles of steady 14-16%. Most definetly not 7 miles of 16%. Don't know why they says things like that. Day 1 is not 12,000 feet of climbing either, a mere 7,500 to 7,800

The long Day 5 will be easy as we will all be hiding behind SuperNana and Baltic Tiger. I'm pretty sure that is what Howard said anyway.

Twain
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