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2020 - How Many Flats
 hairykiwi member offline
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posted 1/2/2020
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I've included the regulars from last year, so its too late for you guys, you are already jinxed just for being associated with me...

I stole this thread from BRKIII who abandoned it in 2012. BRKIII swiped it from JulieB, who ran it for a few years before that...

Just post if you want to be added to the table now, or when you get your first flat.

I found the original flat rules per JulieB on the 2009 thread, so here they are:

I think the rules boil down to this:

1) If you have a situation where there is insufficient air in the tire to ride safely and comfortably, for whatever reason, and the tube needs to be repaired or replaced, it counts as a flat tire. It doesn't matter who repairs the flat. It counts as a flat.

2) If you have a slow leak and decide to simply pump the tire up rather than repairing or replacing the tube immediately, you MAY (not must, MAY) count it as one flat tire per tube per ride, if you so desire. It also counts as an additional flat when you finally repair or replace the tube.

3) If you were riding the bike at the time the air escapes, it's your flat.

4) If you OWN the bike AND you repaired the flat or get someone else to repair it for you, it's your flat no matter who was riding it at the time. So, if you bought a bike with a flat and it's repaired before you get rid of it, it's your flat. If you loan the bike out and it comes back with a flat and it's fixed before you get rid of the bike, it's your flat.

5) If your child has a flat while out riding and doesn't know how to repair it, shame on you. But if you repair or replace the tube (or have it done) you MAY count the flat as yours.

Please note that it would be possible for more than one person to count the same incident as a flat. Both riders of a tandem have to stop while the flat is repaired. Both are mandatorily inconvenienced. Both had a flat on the ride that day. (Unlike the kind friend who stopped with them and changed the flat for them. He just chose to hang with his friends. It wasn't mandatory for him.) If John is visiting Juan and is out riding his spare bike when it gets a flat, and Juan fixes it, both John, the rider and Juan the owner who does the fixing had a flat. (If John had been riding alone and fixed the flat himself before returning Juan's bike, Juan wasn't inconvenienced, and couldn't count the flat.) If you're riding with your child and fix the flat on his training wheel, you both count the flat.

It's the tube, not the tire we're concerned with, here. If tires need to be changed or pitched, it's more often than not a matter of maintenance rather than flat repair. If something happens that IS catastrophic enough to need a flat repair, chances are that the tube needs to be repaired, too. Those few incidents where the tire causes a flat (rather than routine maintenance) and the tube does NOT need attention are so few and far between that I think the affected rider should get a bye.

Another twist is tubeless tires - if your tire goes flat, then you count it as a flat when you reseal it or take it off to replace it.


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posted 1/2/2020
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off to a rousing start. No flats today or yesterday.

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posted 1/5/2020
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Hopefully I won't have any flats to report this year, as 2 out of 3 outdoor bikes are now tubeless, and I only use the third one for my flat-changing class, which doesn't count.

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Bump for Slo_joe

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Bump for Slo_joe
-- posted by hairykiwi


Thanks.

Protected cell ? can't enter number of flats good sir.

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posted 2/13/2020
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Thanks for running this again. So far I have had good odds this year. No flats as of yet and I only have a couple rides.

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Bump for Slo_joe
-- posted by hairykiwi


Thanks.

Protected cell ? can't enter number of flats good sir.
-- posted by Slo_Joe


It's set up so you have to enter in the flat cause columns. but I did fix the total column, it wasn't adding up the other columns.

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posted 2/19/2020
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I canít update the table from my phone but will as soon as I get "free" time on the computer so this is to document until that "free" time happens.

1/14 - First flat on the Specialized and it was a bear to change. It was approximately at the 200 mile mark for the year. The culprit was a tiny, sharp stone that worked its way through the tread. Despite a couple of days with no use, the tire was soft and not all the way flat so very slow leak.

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posted 3/20/2020
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I can't update the number of flats field.

I have my first flat of 2020, on my Salsa Pistola road bike. The tire (Nashbar Prima Plus) has about 3500 miles total, 470 in 2020 (I'm at 2109 total miles in 2020). The tire has had a slow leak for several months, needed to be topped-up every couple rides. Then this morning it was completely flat after having been pumped up two days ago and just pumping wasn't working. With the tube out I could start to inflate, but when I tried to disengage the pump head I'd hear air escaping near the valve. I found a quarter inch tear right at the base of the valve stem that can't be patched.

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I can't update the number of flats field.

I have my first flat of 2020, on my Salsa Pistola road bike. The tire (Nashbar Prima Plus) has about 3500 miles total, 470 in 2020 (I'm at 2109 total miles in 2020). The tire has had a slow leak for several months, needed to be topped-up every couple rides. Then this morning it was completely flat after having been pumped up two days ago and just pumping wasn't working. With the tube out I could start to inflate, but when I tried to disengage the pump head I'd hear air escaping near the valve. I found a quarter inch tear right at the base of the valve stem that can't be patched.
-- posted by consularrider


You have to enter in the cause columns, and it automatically updates the total.

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posted 3/20/2020
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Pinch flat on the front when I hit a big rock on our dirt road. I hadn't checked the tire pressure before I left, but it didn't feel low.
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