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recumbents are king
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posted 11/15/2018
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Anyone ever pass a paceline on a recumbent? Very satisfying.... uprights are huge air catchers...

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posted 12/11/2018
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A friend of mine did a 12 Hr. ride at Daytona, or one of those tracks, and did around 220 miles in under 12 Hrs.The recumbent rejuvenated his cycling. My only thing with recumbents is they don't seem to do well in group riding. You recumbent riders may have a different thought on that.
-- posted by ptsbike
Recumbents don't really have a problem with group rides per se. What problems do exist stem from the differences between DF bikes and recumbents. On a hilly course recumbents go slow while climbing and go fast when descending. So, it is difficult for a group of mixed riders to stick together.
-- posted by GeeWizMan


What he said and DF bikes can't "draft" off a recumbent unless the rider is way down in the drops.
-- posted by Slo_Joe


It's kinda like trying to catch the draft off a tandem when they blow by on a downhill. you better be getting on it quickly.

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posted 12/11/2018
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Df riders talk like they are all about the hills...ive never met one that didn't avoid the *hills" if they can e.g..just like everybody does now and then......so the hills argument falls flat
-- posted by robnol


To disagree Robnol: Overall recumbents are simply slower up hills so if a course has a lot of long steep hills, no way a recumbent can finish better than a DF.

Actual personal experience: I can ride my mountain bike up the local hills faster than my carbon fibre lightweight recumbent. As always: YMMV but I'm willing to bet my first born on average the majority of recumbent riders can not climb a long steep hill as fast as if they were on a DF.

And the debate continues............

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posted 12/11/2018
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No one disputes recumbent are slower on the hills its the down hill and the flats that is the equalizer.... looking straight ahead instead of down at the road or no more saddle or neck fatigue is also a bonus

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posted 12/11/2018
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When we get engaged by a railbird at a rest stop, one of the questions we invariably get is "How fast is it?" Our answer has evolved to "It'll go just as fast as you can pedal it!" 'AustinSk8er' has raced DFs and Bacchetta stickbikes (he went to recumbents due to back problems). He passes DFs on the hills like their riders were beginners. He came in second overall at the 2009 Texas Time Trials, edging out John Schlitter. His time for 503.5 miles was 30:09 (16.7 mph). He was beaten by a younger Patrick Hager, who finished in 28:16 on a DF. The course is 26.5 miles per lap, and has around 50 feet per mile of climbing--fairly hilly.

'Square_Corners' has told me he prefers his 'bent on moderately hilly courses, but prefers his DF on courses with double-digit percent climbs.

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posted 12/11/2018
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I df bikes are better on the hills the recumbent are the absolute kings of aero...

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posted 12/13/2018
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When we get engaged by a railbird at a rest stop, one of the questions we invariably get is "How fast is it?" Our answer has evolved to "It'll go just as fast as you can pedal it!" 'AustinSk8er' has raced DFs and Bacchetta stickbikes (he went to recumbents due to back problems). He passes DFs on the hills like their riders were beginners. He came in second overall at the 2009 Texas Time Trials, edging out John Schlitter. His time for 503.5 miles was 30:09 (16.7 mph). He was beaten by a younger Patrick Hager, who finished in 28:16 on a DF. The course is 26.5 miles per lap, and has around 50 feet per mile of climbing--fairly hilly.

'Square_Corners' has told me he prefers his 'bent on moderately hilly courses, but prefers his DF on courses with double-digit percent climbs.
-- posted by rmillay


+1 about the hills.

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posted 12/13/2018
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A friend of mine did a 12 Hr. ride at Daytona, or one of those tracks, and did around 220 miles in under 12 Hrs.The recumbent rejuvenated his cycling. My only thing with recumbents is they don't seem to do well in group riding. You recumbent riders may have a different thought on that.
-- posted by ptsbike
Recumbents don't really have a problem with group rides per se. What problems do exist stem from the differences between DF bikes and recumbents. On a hilly course recumbents go slow while climbing and go fast when descending. So, it is difficult for a group of mixed riders to stick together.
-- posted by GeeWizMan
It is interesting that Jim Verheul (Critrider on Bacchetta forum) routinely races crits with DFs in California. He and the DFs have no problem racing with each other. Respect from both sides.


Yes, crits are a little different type of group "ride" and I agree that hilly terrain can lead to different riding styles.

And look up Jason Perez. He won the California triple crown last year on a recumbent (Cruzbike Vendetta.) And that series has a lot of climbing.
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